art vs. porn

[SHATOUSHKA]

ok...i'm gonna walk the thin wire into this topic.
i say there is no line between art and porn.
some would argue otherwise.


if there is a line, where is it?
(anyone wanna argue 'value' thereof?)

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[Hannibal]

Penis insterted in vagina = porn
penis not instered = art

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[SHATOUSHKA]

that's a good way to define it. however, i am not convinced that everyone will agree with that. exposing nipples is a fine way to have others dub you to be pornographic...even if it happens to be really cold outside.
er..a...anyway...
on the other hand, i have seen exhibits (namely koonz) that features penetration as 'art'...
so whats the difference?

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[Hannibal]

If the insertion is tastefull then I guess it is art.
However, if his balls are unshaven, OFF TO PORN LAND


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If I lose the light of the sun, I will write by candlelight, moonlight, no light. If I lose paper and ink, I wil write in blood on forgotten walls. I will write always, I will capture nights all over the world and bring them to you.
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[soulfilms]

I was thinking in terms of film:

'tasteful' sex + plot = art
sex=porn

In terms of exhibitions etc:

If you believing (you being creator) it to be art + some high brow arty vocabulary + disdainful nonchalance = art.

All else = porn



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[Alex]

This is a tough one.

I think the difference is with ART, you care about the subjects portrayed, ALWAYS.

With porn, caring about the subjects is not relevant.

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[Mr. Robin]

The differance is in the portrayal, it is in the portrayal that the differentiation between art and porno is found. But tell me where, and how.



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[Mr. Robin]

Then what you are stating is that there exists such a thing as 'pornographic art'?

There clearly is a difference in the intent of pornography and art, just as there is a difference between art and pornography.

How do we find the differance?

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[Hannibal]

OH geez... *stomps off from this thread*

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[Mr. Robin]

Why doesn't that surprise me......

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